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MrFizz Sr. ? Made in Japan

We still get requests for the Mr. Fizz Senior ? a stainless steel 1 liter seltzer bottle. Regrettably, this item is no longer available.

In our opinion, the maker in Japan would not support the item in a manner we believed was consistent with our vision of superior customer service. This is unfortunate, as we really enjoyed the design.

Since the maker will not supply any spare parts, we are unable to service these units.  The best we can offer is for you to provide a proof of purchase, and we will take 25% off the retail price of a new stainless steel seltzer bottle as described below.

In the beginning of 2015, we introduced new 1 and 2 liter stainless steel seltzer bottles. These bottles are fitted with black ABS heads and accept all standard 8gram CO2 cartridges.

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Something Smells Funny

Minerals in water eventually adhere to the inside of a seltzer bottle and over time can give off a smell. The smell is actually a chemical reaction.
When you inject CO2 into water it eventually saturates and becomes Carbonic Acid, that is the tingle on your tongue, the ?fizzy? feeling. So when Carbonic Acid further interacts with mineral deposits inside the seltzer bottle, you can get the ?smell?. The neck of the bottle makes it difficult to get in there and perform a proper cleaning with a brush. Short of that, we have used a few ice cubes and some baking soda. Once in the bottle, we hold our hand over the top and agitate the ice and powder mixture by shaking and swirling. After a few minutes of that and some tired arms, empty the mix out, rinse well and let the bottle air dry. If there is still something going on in there, treat the insides to a white vinegar soak and rinse such as you might do for your coffee brewer. There are commercially available cleaning agents designed to remove minerals from coffee pots and such. While we have not validated that these are effective, we are aware of many customers who report success.

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Dripping

Seltzer bottles will always drip a few drops after you release the lever arm. This is trapped water in the nozzle where a slight vacuum is created by the water rushing through.

A Frequent drip likely means that the piston washer needs to be replaced or just cleaned well. See the tip above regarding cleaning as many times a repair can be avoided by performing a good cleaning.

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Fizzy Enough

Seltzer bottles utilize the air space over the water to allow the controlled portion of CO2 (from the cartridge) to saturate into the water. the result of this saturation is the formation of Carbonic Acid, i.e. the tingle on your tongue. It takes time , pressure and temperature to achieve the best fizz (saturation). Cold water filled to the proper level using the provided inner plastic sleeve will achieve the right amount of air space over the water for the incoming CO2. This is important as when the bottle and components were designed, that air space is just right to accept all of the gas from a standard 8g CO2 cartridge. So if you overfill with water, the excess gas will vent out and you will not have the right fizz. If you under fill, you will have allowed too much air space over the water which in turn decreases the pressure of the Co2 coming in. Let a freshly charged bottle sit in the refrigerator for about 4-8 hours for a complete saturation.

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Shake or Stir

You can shake a freshly charged bottle of seltzer, but all that is doing is helping the saturation process at the beginning.

Shaking a charged bottle after saturation is not good, in fact, you will take some CO2 out of saturation.

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One Cartridge or Two

A one liter (1 quart) bottle should only be charged with one 8g CO2 cartridge.

A two liter (2 quart) bottle may be charged with two 8g CO2 cartridges but only after allowing the first cartridge to fully discharge and warm up slightly.

Anytime the CO2 transfers into the seltzer bottle, it gets quite cold because the CO2 is transforming from a liquid state to a vapor state and that process 'steals' heat from the cartridge and the piercing pin area thereby becoming very cold or frozen in appearance.

Let the equipment warm up a bit as a frozen seal will not do as well as a room temperature seal.

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Leave Cartridge And Holder Off

We suggest you remove the spent CO2 cartridge after a brief warm up period of about 2-5 minutes. This means also removing the cartridge holder and stowing it in the junk drawer.

The reason for this is that when the CO2 gas is initially transferred into the seltzer bottle, the pressure from the CO2 cartridge opens an internal valve and seal. The gas transfers in and an equilibrium of pressure then exists in the air space over the water as well as the in the Co2 cartridge.

That is why you will always hear a little gas escaping pop noise when the cartridge is removed. However, the moist air from in the bottle will work its way up and into the cartridge eventually . The insides of the CO2 cartridges are not prepared for a moist environment and therefore, rust will form in a very short amount of time. If the pressure is the same inside the bottle as in the cartridge, the valve is likely open and could allow a few drops of rusty water to get in the gaskets of the valve causing premature leakage and in some cases, it can get into the soda water.

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When I charge up the bottle it doesn?t take the gas and only when I release the carts does the gas escape and then only into the air.

Our cartridges are known to function well in all soda equipment. We do know that, from time to time, that the piercing pin can get worn and in some cases, clogged.

We do not service all soda bottles, however, I would try to look at the end of a cartridge you tried to puncture. If the gas did not come out at all, then I would assume there is not a puncture hole in the cartridge, but rather, a dent. If so, that would lead me to believe the puncture pin is worn. If there is a hole in the cartridge and the gas could not enter the soda bottle, then I would assume the gas escaped while you were removing the cartridge.

In some cases, the first cartridge you try, may not have been turned down enough to make it seal properly. Then, liquid Co2 would freeze the little hole it is expected to go through to enter the soda bottle. Although clogged, eventually, the pin warms up enough to allow the dry ice melt and the gas to transfer to the soda bottle.

Please be careful and don?t modify anything. Warm tap water over the head is usually enough to defrost it. .

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